Episode 89 - Full Time Students Full Time Pastors – Jeff & Jonny’s Story

BEWARE, BEWARE! This episode breaks the all time length record for our podcast! It's 58 minutes full! We just had too much fun talking about continuing education and our experience together getting our Master's degrees while still in full time ministry.


We talk with Danielle Dworak, the Associate Director of Student Development and Support at Bethel Seminary in St. Paul, MN. Danielle is our good friend who helped us along the way in our four years at Bethel. She is a firebrand who can go toe to toe with the biggest, meanest seminary student and make them cry! (That might be a little exaggeration, but not really!)


Episode 89 recounts the challenges and opportunities of getting your advanced degree while you are still doing family, life, and ministry. It is quite a challenge, but completely doable. Bethel offers a number of advanced degrees, including Master's of Christian Thought (intersection of theology & culture), Master's of Marriage and Family Therapy, Master of Divinity, Doctor of Divinity, etc.


Most importantly, we as small church pastors must be lifelong learners - that is the real lesson and encouragement of this episode. We hope you enjoy it!