Pastor Danny Garrido joins us for Episode 299 to talk about working full time, pastoring an inner city church, and staying stress-free. Danny is the pastor of The Crossing Church in Colorado Springs CO and an all around great guy! 

Danny works for the city, collecting taxes and doing business audits. But, on the weekends, he's just another small church pastor. This is so, so encouraging!

Dave Jacobs from SmallChurchPastor.com and DaveJacobs.net, joined us LIVE in the Des Moines IA studio for this episode! The three of us spent a day together recently and could not be together without recording a couple episodes.

Today's episode is about creating margin in your life, those breathable spaces in your day and week that help you live as a real human being, and not a ministry automaton! Dave describes the process he takes pastors through to reclaim their lives, so that they might experience some significant think time, leisure time, and spiritual time.

We hope you are encouraged by this episode as you seek to truly live life - spiritual life, ministry life, family life, and personal life - to the fullest!

As always, if you are looking for some very inexpensive coaching, Dave specializes in coaching small church pastors. His rates have not gone up in the five years we've known him (I told him he needs to raise them!) and we can totally vouch for him as a pastor coach, since we've both received helpful and life-giving coaching from him!

Jeff Keady and Jonny Craig are pastors in Central Iowa, at two different churches. Each of them preaches most weekends. As pastors know, Sundays come every single weekend! Without fail, as the sun rises and sets we need to prep messages every week to deliver every weekend!

The guys normally have a guest, but today they "interview" each other as pastors who preach weekly. They ask many questions throughout the conversation. What is the flow of the week in preparation? How do they think about preparation and delivery? What's the challenge with preaching in 2018? When do they start and end their prep? 

This would be a "Jeff and Jonny Classic". To hear a very fun episode that is another "Classic", listen to Episode 15, where the guys talk about their fantasy Sunday morning service - recorded way back in April of 2013! It's only 15 minutes long, and you can compare how they sound today, to way, back, then! 

Pictured below, some scary pics of Jeff and Jonny on duty in their respective ministries! :-)

Heather Zempel is the Discipleship Pastor at National Community Church in Washington, D.C. Heather joins Jeff to talk about small groups and small churches and how small church leaders might think about small groups in their churches.

Heather gets very practical, while Jeff gets very curious about Heather and her husband Ryan, their move into ministry, the church they serve at, and even what Heather has been learning about small group ministry.

Heather's newest book, published by Orange, is titled Big Change Small Groups Four Ideas To Help You Lead Adult Small Groups, is written specifically for regular, normal, small group leaders. This book is not just for pastors or church leaders, but for your small group leaders.

When you finish listening to Heather here, check out her episode with Rich Birch on the UnSeminary Podcast! It's a good one. (Yes, we will even promote other podcasts! ...but only good ones)