This episode deals a lot with how we as pastors deal with the challenges of being in the "people business." Deon speaks plainly, but deeply - into the inner life of the pastor. He deals with our self-esteem, fears, pride, wisdom, humility, and primal reactions to danger! This is a very thoughtful episode.


Enjoy!

Our guest and friend this week and next, for episodes 131/132, is Deon Wynia. Deon is a licensed Therapist and works at Bethesda Christian Counseling in our town.

Deon works with pastors and church leaders to help them achieve unity and work through leadership issues and challenges between leaders in the church, and also between the church family and it's leadership. Deon has a lot of experience helping pastors and church leaders work through junk! His goal for them is reconciliation, trust, and love.

Our two conversations with Deon in episodes 131/132 will really help you as you think through your own leadership relationships in your 200church. 

Deon is a great friend. He is soft spoken, but his words really pack a punch! Deon has counseled with both Jonny and me in the past, but don't blame him for us...

Enjoy the episodes!

Jonny and Jeff talk about some obvious and some not so obvious considerations - some practical, and even some uncomfortable issues that swirl around our thinking as it relates to staying at or leaving our church.

This is a tough subject for us to think and pray about, as it cuts right to the heart of our ministry purpose - caring for the sheep God has entrusted to us, even as we search for more.

Enjoy this episode!

Dave Jacobs again joins the guys to talk about the inner life of a pastor and how he or she works through situations when they offend others, or are themselves offended.

This is a very practical episode and also very personal for the pastor, as he or she deals with this reality on at least a monthly basis.

Plan to take notes and be challenged in how you conduct yourself in ministry as you interact with your congregation. 

Visit Dave at SmallChurchPastor.Com! If you need someone to talk to about your ministry challenges, or want help in crafting a personal pastoral plan for growth, consider hiring Dave on as a personal pastor coach! He specializes in small church pastors.

At the least, allow yourself the pleasure of getting his book, Mile Wide Inch Deep, and use it to develop yourself as a person and a pastor.

Jonny sits down with John Finkelde... on another continent of course, to talk about how to manage your ministry time.

And, since we are in somewhat of a summer mode, and... I am on sabbatical - this is all you're getting!

Now... listen to episode 128! :-)

Enjoy...