Jeff and Jonny talk about making ministry changes in a church, but first asking the question - "Is it worth it?" Is the cost you will have to pay to make the change, worth the benefit that will result, and how do you determine that?
Jonny remembered literally all the way back to Episode 02 - Handling Sacred Cows In Your Church, and decided this episode is the part 2 update on sacred cows in the church! Maybe you have some changes you want to make in your ministry, and you are trying to decide if the cost is worth the benefit - and perhaps this episode will help you process through that. It's been a long time since the guys created an episode without another guest - and this was FUN! 
Mark Messmore is the lead pastor of Mount Olivet Christian Church in Williamstown KY. Mark talks with Jeff and Jonny about his adventures in ministry - like writing a book on preaching titled Simple Preaching Prep - A guide to finish your first sermon and flourish beyond, and also dueling with the challenges of ministry and personal life.
Mark shares openly from a very vulnerable place, in a way that connects others to him through weakness and not strength. This episode is going to encourage everyone who has ever struggled through the challenges of leading a church while at the same time fighting their own personal battles. 
Jeremy Norton is the lead pastor at Mountainview Church in White Horse, the Yukon Territory, Canada. Check out what Jeremy is doing in the video on THIS PAGE. It is really encouraging that he and his church are reaching out to the northern areas of Canada to evangelize and disciple all people.
Jeremy has been a "friend of the podcast" for many years, and appeared also on episodes 233 and 329. We know you'll enjoy Jeremy's story! Also, Jeremy's book, Northern Roads - A Journey of Life and Leadership Serving on the 60th Parallel is available where all books are sold! 
Jeff and Jonny talk with Dr. Doug Bursch about his latest book titled Posting Peace - Why Social Media Divides Us and What We Can Do About It. Doug has extensively researched, written, and considered the impact of social media on our culture and churches. He suggests a redemptive approach toward social media by Christians. Since the most important conversations are happening online, he does not want to be absent from them, but he wants to interject love, peace, and reconciliation while engaging in those very conversations.
Doug is direct and clear in his dialogue with the guys, and they think you will find this episode extremely thought provoking and instructive. This will be one of those very helpful and encouraging episodes dealing with the very struggles of our day as pastors. Enjoy! And, pick up Doug's book, Posting Peace, here! 
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