Jeff and Jonny forage around the episode digging up all kinds of ministry thoughts and ideas - this was a fun episode! They kicked off the conversation by exploring Jonny's recent thesis that ministry is not programs and curriculum, but ministry is communication and relationships.
From that topic they launch off into all kinds of leadership and ministry topics and ideas.
Very importantly they reference this episode of The UnSeminary Podcast where Rich Birch talks with Greg Curtis. Check out BOTH links - trust us, you need them and you'll thank us later!
While we are recommending episodes, check out this episode with Carey Nieuwhof and John Ortberg! Solid gold Baby! Again, you'll thank us later!
But first, enjoy this simple classic Jeff & Jonny episode! :-)
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