Episode 272: The Healthy, Effective, Life-Changing, Kingdom Advancing Small Church with Karl Vaters

Almost 5 years ago, way back in the summer of 2013, Karl Vaters made his first appearance on the then fledgling 200churches Podcast - and he has been a friend to Jeff and Jonny every since! Just back from a long break in Europe, Karl plugged in the mic and joined the guys for a conversation about what he is learning these days as he speaks to small church pastors around the country regularly.

He states that he has had the opposite of "writer's block" as he has produced scores of blog posts and a recent book on small church ministry. His books are practical and very encouraging to pastors of normal sized congregations.

He is the author of The Grasshopper Myth: Big Churches, Small Churches, and the Small Thinking that Divides Us and Small Church Essentials: Field Tested Principles for Leading a Healthy Congregation Under 250.

He is also the founder of NewSmallChurch.com and the blogger for Pivot, a small church oriented blog on Christianity Today.

This episode will encourage and inspire you, especially if you pastor an ordinary size church! :-)