Today on Episode 147, Karl "The Shark" Vaters talks to us about his intentional apathy list. What does he purposely not care about anymore? In fact, what succulent church insider issues just no longer interest him?
Sometimes we spend an inordinate amount of time caring for the unimportant. This was a very fun episode to record, and Karl is a great small church practitioner and philosopher - you will be challenged, encouraged, and entertained by this episode!
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