So yes, Walter Brueggemann indeed does bring the heat of his understanding of what the Bible says about money. possessions, the economy, the poor, and the billionaire class - hotly to episode 235 of The 200churches Podcast!
Jeff and Jonny talked with Dr. B from his Cincinnati home and he pulled no punches as he shared what he thinks is very important for small church pastors to know about speaking up for the poor, the disadvantaged, and those mired in poverty and without a voice.
In his most recent book, Money and Possessions, Brueggemann encourages a holy and loving neighborliness as the proper approach for God's people in today's economy. In the Amazon promotion of the book, it says:
Brueggemann advises us to reassess the ways in which our society engages—or does not engage—questions of money and possessions as carriers of social possibility. He invites the church to move toward an alternative neighborly economy that is more consistent with the gospel we confess.
In this episode, he talks to pastors of small churches about ways that they and their churches can make a difference in the real, lived lives of people today. We even got Dr. B to laugh out loud! He, however, got us to laugh more. This is a great episode, right on the heels of episode 234 with Dr. Stanley Hauerwas! Enjoy!
Also, Walter Brueggemann recently appeared on the Homebrewed Christianity podcast, and discussed very similar material - it is also a great episode to listen to if you want more Brueggemann!! CLICK HERE!
What a privilege and joy to speak with Dr. Hauerwas about his thoughts on the church, pastors, and our role in society. Especially interesting was his take on the importance of Eucharistic Celebration in the public worship of the people of God.
Here is how he is described straight from his bio on the Duke Divinity School website:
Professor Hauerwas has sought to recover the significance of the virtues for understanding the nature of the Christian life. This search has led him to emphasize the importance of the church, as well as narrative for understanding Christian existence. His work cuts across disciplinary lines as he is in conversation with systematic theology, philosophical theology and ethics, political theory, as well as the philosophy of social science and medical ethics. He was named "America’s Best Theologian" by Time magazine in 2001. Dr. Hauerwas, who holds a joint appointment in Duke Law School, delivered the prestigious Gifford Lectureship at the University of St. Andrews, Scotland in 2001.
His book, A Community of Character: Toward a Constructive Christian Social Ethic, was selected as one of the 100 most important books on religion of the 20th century. Dr. Hauerwas recently authored The Work of Theology(Eerdmans, 2015), Hannah’s Child: A Theological Memoir, 2nd Ed. (Eerdmans, 2012), and War and the American Difference: Theological Reflections on Violence and National Identity ( Baker Academic Press, 2011).
If you are a pastor, you should also be a thinker and learner - and you will love this conversation as much as we did! Enjoy!
Jeremy Norton is the real deal! Straight from a small church, 200 miles north of Juneau AK, in the Yukon Territory of Canada, Jeremy talks about leading change, loving his leaders, and ordering his week! This is an awesome episode!
One Friday, on my (Jeff) day off, I was looking at recent iTunes reviews, and saw Jeremy's review of our podcast. So I thought, why don't I call this cat up?! I did, we had a great conversation, and I asked him to be on our podcast - and here it is!
What we liked so much about Jeremy is just how real he was, sharing wins and losses, strengths and struggles. It's encouraging to know that small churches are being led by men and women with such conviction and transparency, and love for their people and for God. Jeremy is an example of just such a pastor.
CHECK OUT HIS WEBSITE FOR GREAT IDEAS
If you want to see a good small church website, and a church making excellent use of social media, stop on by Whitehorse Baptist Church at www.whbc.ca and you can get some great pointers and ideas from what Jeremy's done.
Thanks Jeremy for joining us, for inspiring small church pastors around the world, and for loving Jesus and his people!
We hope that you, pastor, are personally encouraged by Jeremy's words, and also professionally challenged to make the most of the ministry God has blessed you with!
Do you partner in ministry with any other churches in town? If you do, how is it going? Is there unity, mission accomplishment, and neighborhood witness? If you are not partnering with other churches, why not? No time? Not interested? Bad histories? We always teach our people that there is one church in each community, but they meet in separate groups and buildings. But. Just. One. Church.
Pastor Zach Bauer, from Red Door Church in Sioux Falls, really believes this and partners with a number of other churches in the Sioux Falls SD area to accomplish bigger things for God, than any one of those churches could on their own. That's a good thing!
There really is nothing like the feeling of Kingdom glory and satisfaction when you partner with another church to do something for God that is helpful and beneficial to others in your community!
In today's episode, Zach, a small church pastor, tells how the partnering with others fuels his passion for his community, and helps him to achieve more with others than he ever could alone.
Zach refers to Empower Sioux Falls, the partnership he has with other churches. At www.empowersiouxfalls.com you will find ideas, training, and resources to help you in your small church ministry leadership.
At www.empowersiouxfalls.com you will find contact information for each of the church leaders involved. Feel free to call or email them! They are willing to encourage or equip you further as you lead your congregation in caring for the neighborhoods in your community.
We hope you both enjoy and benefit from this episode with Pastor Zach! See you next Wednesday, because...
if it's Wednesday, it's 200churches!
Dr. Cherith Nordling is a professor at Northern Seminary in the Chicagoland area. Check out her bio right here! Also, if you have even an inkling of furthering your education, you should absolutely check out Northern Seminary's offerings, where you can get an advanced degree while remaining in your ministry location!
This is another in the Seminary Series of episodes here on The 200churches Podcast! Put your thinking cap on, get your Bible and a notepad, and plan to delve deep into the doctrines of Christology, Pneumatology, Anthropology, Soteriology, etc. This is an awesome tornadic presentation by Dr. Nordling, who was also a speaker at the Missio Alliance Awakenings Gathering in Alexandria VA.
Honestly, Jeff and Jonny were transfixed, considering the person of Jesus and the person of the Holy Spirit, and following Cherith's machinations on both. She uses imagination, the biblical text, context, and a love for the Scripture to explore the essence and nature of the Triune God.
You will need to think hard on this episode, and all pastors SHOULD be deep thinkers, at least for an hour a week! :-)
You'll also quickly realize this episode will deserve a second listen. It will be well worth it.
We love you, Pastor! We're thrilled to share this episode with you. Enjoy!
Valerie Bell is the CEO of AWANA Clubs International, a global Children's Ministry that reaches over 3 million kids each week. Valerie visited with Jeff and Jonny in person, in the opulent and luxurious 200churches Podcast studio and world headquarters way up in the northwest corner of Iowa!
Valerie has been involved in Christian ministry and radio for many decades, and her husband Steve is the Executive Vice President of the Willowcreek Association and the architect of the Global Leadership Summit. A member of Willowcreek Community Church, Valerie was nonetheless blown away by the grandeur of the 200churches Studio. :-)
Jeff and Jonny were impacted by Valerie's heart and love for small churches and small church pastors. She shares how the backbone of AWANA is found in the small churches that dot the landscape. Small church input from the bottom up has influenced many advances and improvements in AWANA's curriculum and program.
If you are not familiar with the AWANA Clubs program and materials, check them out at www.awana.org. If you want to know more about Willowcreek's Global Leadership Summit, then check it out too!
More about Steve and Valerie Bell:
STEVE and VALERIE BELL have been married and in ministry together for over 30 years. Steve is currently an executive vice-president of the Willow Creek Association. Valerie travels widely as a conference speaker, making frequent guest appearances on radio and television. Valerie is the author of A Well Tended Soul - Staying Beautiful for the Rest of Your Life, and co-author with her husband of Made to be Loved and Faith-Shaped Kids. Steve and Valerie live in Wheaton, Illinois; they have two grown sons.
From SmallChurchPastor.com, Dave "The Animal" Jacobs joins us to give great advice and pointers on how to make our meetings more effective. Board meetings, elder meetings, deacon meetings, leadership team meetings, etc. can all be better by implementing what we all share in episode 229.
This is not rocket science pastors! This is common sense that might, amazingly, elude us in the heat of the ministry moment. This is likely as practical as any of the episodes we've done, and you will enjoy the interplay and chemistry between the three of us.
Dave shares some "do's" and "don'ts" regarding our preparation for, and leadership of our ministry meetings. Honestly, recording these episodes with such great and helpful people is more fun that you can imagine - and we are so thankful to be able to share them with you week after week! We are learning and growing with you. Enjoy episode 229 - and contact Dave if you need affordable and effective coaching from Dave, a coach to pastors, and a pastor himself for almost 30 years!
Contact Dave at email@example.com.
"Feminism calls women to be like men, but the Bible calls us to be like God!"
Jeff and Jonny met Carolyn Custis James at the Missio Alliance Awakenings Gathering in Alexandria VA. Carolyn is soft spoken, but carries huge content! She has written books like Half the Church: Recapturing God’s Global Vision for Women, and Malestrom: Manhood Swept into the Currents of a Changing World.
She is an author, thinker, teacher, and seminary president's wife. Carolyn thinks deeply about the role and mission of women in the Kingdom of God. She asks, "What is the Bible's message for women?" She thoughtfully answers that question both in her book and on this podcast with the guys.
This conversation does not deal so much with the Egalitarian/Complementarian debate - but it is a call to action to mobilize women and girls in the church to look outward and say - How do I mobilize the Gospel to spread the Kingdom around the world?
This is just one more of those head scratcher episodes that makes you think, and even question how you've viewed the church in regards to half of it... women!
You'll enjoy Carolyn's kind and gentle nature, and her syrupy sweet affirmation of her husband in the outtakes! :-) Carolyn loves Frank!!
Have you struggled to help your people understand how and why to read the Bible? Have you ever wondered how to get your church family to read the same Bible passages together, on some kind of a unified reading plan? Are you tired of the worn out approach to "Read the Bible in a Year!"?
Glenn Paauw brings the HEAT and makes his case for reading - simply reading - the pure Bible, and just the Bible - not notes, cross references, charts and graphs, summaries, etc. Glenn is somewhat of a "The Bible and nothing but the Bible, Ma'am".
Several hundred years ago some folks thought it was a good idea to chop up the Bible into an unrecognizable assortment of chapters and verses - and Glenn shares some of the history of Bible creation regarding physical versions of the Scripture. He shares some of the pitfalls of the chapters and verses creation and also the drawbacks of the Study Bible approach to Bible publication.
Finally, Glenn Paauw, from the ImmerseBible.com project team and the Institute for Bible Reading, offers a fresh and creative approach to helping your entire church get on the same page, no pun intended, in their Bible reading together, emphasizing reading the Bible in community. You're going to like this episode!
A little info on our buddy Glenn...
Glenn Paauw has worked in Bible ministry for 28 years publishing, researching, speaking, and writing on the topic of reading and living the Bible well. He led the development of the revolutionary The Books of the Bible format that uncovers the natural literary form of the Scriptures, which served as the foundational piece of the Community Bible Experience church program. Glenn lives in Colorado Springs, CO and is the author of Saving the Bible From Ourselves - Learning To Read and Live the Bible Well...
Kay Warren joins Jeff and Jonny to talk about mental illness and the church. How do we equip our churches to become mental-illness-literate congregations? Kay describes what her dream church would look like if she could snap her fingers and make it happen! In this episode there is a little humor and a lot of seriousness around this very sobering topic.
Let’s admit it, our churches should be the friendliest, most helpful, most encouraging spaces for people with mental illness. In this episode Kay will give you a plan to help your church arrive at just such a place!
Pastor, there are people in your church who are suffering from mental illness, and they NEED your support, encouragement, prayer, and recognition. Kay will give you some very concrete and practical suggestions for doing these things.
Below are the four books that Kay suggested that we as pastors buy, or pick up from the library, and read. We can dive into theological or ministry books ad nauseum, but Kay recommends these four as great primers on understanding people in our community and church who suffer with mental illness.
You can follow all that Kay is doing as an advocate for mental health issues, HIV&AIDS, orphan care, and much more at www.kaywarren.com. Follow Kay on Twitter at @kaywarren1.
Kay mentioned the following resources to help you as a pastor understand mental illness:
Grace for the Afflicted: A Clinical and Biblical Perspective on Mental Illness
Suffering and the Heart of God: How Trauma Destroys and Christ Restores
Troubled Minds: Mental Illness and the Church's Mission
Resurrecting the Person: Friendship and the Care of People with Mental Health Problems
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